[Sanctions-Discuss] Discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 3

[Muhammad Aslam Popal]

My personal view is to start the experimental round with the government
sanctioned entities as that way we could review the whole process plus it
is already approved by the governments. It would not be an easy task for
the OSINT group though it will help refine the process.

It does make sense to use a database rather than a spreadsheet as the list
could potentially grow plus there might be other features of the database
i.e analytics , reviews, versioning plus it seems that the list might grow
which might be difficult to achieve via spreadsheets.

I would like to suggest that some kind of impact framework should be
considered once the database is operational.

Regards
-Aslam
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 8:57 AM Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:

>
>
> On Mar 27, 2022, at 1:34 PM, J Scott Marcus <scott at scottmarcus.com> wrote:
> Seems very reasonable to me. But I could also see an argument for blocking
> both Sputnik and RT in the first wave, which still makes for a small enough
> test list.
>
>
> Ok, seems reasonable.  Others want to chime in on this, and suggest a few
> other organizations and individuals for this experimental round?
>
> Ordinarily, of course, we’d be going at this the other way around…
>  Governmentally-defined sanctions would be our input, and we’d be
> considering whether they seem reasonable for Internet implementation,
> rather than us picking from a menu of governmentally-defined entities based
> on our convenience or predilections. In any event, our next step after
> defining the experimental list, is to document clearly what the
> governmental sources and provided information are.
>
> So, here’s the EU source:
>
>
> https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ:L:2022:065:FULL&from=EN
>
> *ANNEX XV*
> *LIST OF LEGAL PERSONS, ENTITIES OR BODIES REFERRED TO IN ARTICLE 2F*
> RT- Russia Today English
> RT- Russia Today UK
> RT - Russia Today Germany
> RT - Russia Today France
> RT- Russia Today Spanish
> Sputnik
>
> …Which actually isn’t very detailed. No postal addresses, no
> alternate-language representations, no corporation numbers.
>
> As of March 18, the Norwegian government had decided to adopt other EU
> sanctions *BUT NOT* those against RT and Sputnik:
>
> https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/russia_sanctions/id2904511/
>
>
> As of March 25, the Swiss government had decided to adopt other EU
> sanctions *BUT NOT* those against RT and Sputnik:
>
>
> https://www.rts.ch/info/suisse/12969462-la-suisse-adopte-de-nouvelles-sanctions-mais-ninterdit-pas-russia-today-et-sputnik.html
>
>
> As of March 25, the Australian government sanctioned Russia Today (and
> three other Russian propaganda outlets):
>
>
> https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/marise-payne/media-release/australia-places-additional-sanctions-russia-and-belarus
>
>
> …but I still need to track down the actual legislation.
>
> As of March 16, the Canadian broadcast regulator sanctioned Russia Today:
>
> https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2022/2022-68.pdf
>
>
> The US State Department published this report back in January:
>
>
> https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Kremlin-Funded-Media_January_update-19.pdf
>
>
> …but as of today, neither RT nor Sputnik appear in the US sanctions list:
>
> https://www.treasury.gov/ofac/downloads/ssi/ssilist.txt
>
>
> Likewise, neither RT nor Sputnik appear in the UK sanctions list:
>
>
> https://ofsistorage.blob.core.windows.net/publishlive/UKSL/UKSanctionsList.html
>
>
> So either we use this mixed outcome as input to a debate on whether
> EU/AU/CA constitutes a sufficient quorum, in the absence of
> US/UK/NO/CH/others, or we go back and see if there are other entities that
> represent a broader consensus among governments.
>
>                                 -Bill
>
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